Captain Obvious

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  Question for the nonbelievers and atheists

  by nykid in

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  2. experiences

  what specifically made you stop believing in god and the bible?

  was it a steady road of doubts or it was reading one book or one major event that made you realize the bible was not what it's claimed to be?.

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  It was the same logic that brought me out of belief in the WT.

  If one is intellectually honest with oneself, it is the only logical outcome.
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  Is there a list of JW contradictions / double standards anywhere?

  by BenRichards in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i mentioned in a recent thread, i've relatively new here.

  have been lurking for a few weeks and just started posting.. one of the things i'm finding interesting about this site is how often someone posts a set of jw published material that contradicts each other.

  for example the other day someone posted about lecithin.

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  Yes I believe it's called, "what does the bible really teach?"

  seriously though, this is a big undertaking. Perhaps it would be a good project for someone to do? We could get the whole forum involved, all contributing Our favourite contradictions. We'll publish it and call it,"what does the Watchtower really teach?"
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  AUGUST 2014 OVER!! NOW WHAT??

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while sitting through a dreadful meeting today, while staring into space, i wondered what is next for jw's now that the "greatest preaching campaign" in the history of mankind is over.

  what is everyone gonna be obsessed with now?

  who knows maybe the annual meeting?

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  Well JWs are used to anticlimactic events! Hype hype hype then nothing. On to the next scheme!

  Every memorial, "This will be our last!"

  Every DC/RC, "This will be our last!"

  Every campaign, "This will be our last! Look how jehoober is speeding up the work!"
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  help needed....cult question from watchtower

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i was looking at the boards not too long ago and saw a list of questions that were related to whether or not a religion was a cult that looked like it came from the watchtower.

  i've been trying to find those questions again so i could find the watchtower and hopefully one day show this to my wife who is still asleep to the troof of the gb.. .

  the help would be greatly appreciated.. .

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  Careful, a cult member will not respond well to directly challenging their beliefs. They will also deny that it is a cult at all costs, and deny that they are being manipulated or controlled. A cult member believes they are making conscious choices of their own will.

  This may not be a very good approach with your wife. but if you have already breached the cult subject, then sure go ahead and prove it. Maybe start by using info from legit cult experts, then quotes by cult experts about JWs.
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  'She wasn't a Jehovah's Witness anyway...'

  by NAVYTOWN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  years ago, when i was studying with the witnesses, my bible studty conductor's sister in ohio died.

  of cancer as i recall.

  so he flew back to ohio ( from san diego ) to be with his family .

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  Why should they?

  Witnesses eagerly await the slaughter of EVERY human on earth who isnt an active, true believing witness. No time for empathy
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  11-15 WT- Drinking before meetings

  by Absalom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be holy, we must weigh the scriptures carefully and do what god asks of us.

  consider aarons sons nadab and abihu, who were executed for offering unauthorized fire, perhaps while inebriated.

  (lev.

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  I can hardly sit through a meeting without a nice buzz on anyway so... Nice of them to accomodate me!
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  Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.

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  Non-believer. I find belief in something so clearly man-made to be impossible for me.

  If the Judeo-Christian god is real, and the bible is true, then the bible shows him not worthy of reverence or worship. Even if Yahweh were real and really could offer everlasting life, I wouldn't want it under his rule or by his hand.
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  how to survive a three day assembly?

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i have to go to one of these soon.

  i find it difficult enough to sit through a meeting knowing what i now know.

  how to survive a whole three days???!!!

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  NoMoreHustle, just zone out. Play tunes in your head. Your spouse may just be worried about how others sitting near you will react. That was me last year, so much lies and hate in the talks. Couldn't do it, wifey was pissed. Wanted to storm out of there, but wanted to listen to be able to rant about it later. Terrible.

  SO: for whom was this the last RC they will ever attend? I said that last year and went again this year so... This one was the last one for me.

  Who's with me?
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  Hubby's tempted to go back

  by jgnat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today he kept bumping in to (or rather dodging and weaving from) fellow witnesses.

  he's talking about returning but can't figure out a way to do it without enduring a fair amount of humiliation.

  i did not panic.

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  I think Aunt Fancy is on to something. The ONLY thing that really helps an ex-JW drop the feelings of guilt is to do more research. It's ok that he feels and doesn't think, let him read about the needless hurt and pain the WT has caused people. Let him read at least the part of CoC that talks about the Mexico/Malawi deal. Only a cold hearted bastard couldn't be moved by that.

  This brings out a very important point for all of us with loved ones still in. If they just happen to quit meetings, fade away without doing their proper research and finding solid ground for their doubts and issues... They are easily dragged back either by "encouragement" (guilt) from family/friends or by something they see in world events that makes them panick. Look at how much the meeting attendance and baptisms spiked in the year following 9/11.

  When we want someone out, we can't be happy simply to see them quit going to meetings. Brain washing goes MUCH deeper than that, and can be re-ignited anytime.
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  Have you ever given CoC to a JW to read? Or any other "red pill" book?

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.

  she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  it seems to be the best red pill out there.

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  Thanks Phaedra and Baalamsass.

  I agree, one needs to be "ripe" before approaching the book. Personally I think she just might be. She barely had a cult personality to begin wih, and is by no means studious or a "true believer." For a good while she would comment that I'm not "like that" when a speaker would spout BS about apostates from the platform. If the book were sarcastic or angry at all she would repulse at it.

  I'll give it to her when it shows up and see how it goes. She has a few days off this week, hope she takes a look. Will report back on how it goes.